A hundred years of cinema and thousands of films have explored the theme of love and romance and relationships?
Trevor asked:
This scene from a movie recently won ‘best scene depicting romance’ as polled by the Oscars organisers in conjunction with SAG, Golden Globes, BAFTA and the Cannes Film Festival
It’s a thirty second clip and has been hailed as the best screen embrace of all time:
http://www.boxxet.com/Jake_Gyllenhaal/video:brokeback-mountain-the-kiss/
What do you think?
FERMINE: If that’s how you interpreted it then I am afraid you missed the point and didn’t get it at all.
What you say is most definitely not the theme of the movie
LOL
Now off back to your trailer and thump some bibles whilst you think up some more unfunny insults to post in your questions.
BLUE CHRISTIAN: DId you actually watch the clip? One of the reasons why I enjoy this debate with you is because it is so transparent when you give a knee-jerk and hostile response without thinking.
One wonders if your ‘thesis’ on whether an award can be given to a scene is based on your own prejudice and if indeed you would have said the same thing had I posted the final kiss between Rhett Butler and Scarlet O’Hara in Gone With the Wind?
Of course the most far reaching membership of movie professionals can vote a scene in a ‘best of’ category. The Oscars do it every year.
BLUE CHRISTIAN: Did you actually watch the clip? One of the reasons why I enjoy this debate with you is because it is so transparent when you give a knee-jerk and hostile response without thinking.
One wonders if your ‘thesis’ on whether an award can be given to a scene is based on your own prejudice and if indeed you would have said the same thing had I posted the final kiss between Rhett Butler and Scarlet O’Hara in Gone With the Wind?
Of course the most far reaching membership of movie professionals can vote a scene in a ‘best of’ category. The Oscars do it every year.
Blue Christ: And when you say “hailed as the best, by whom” it is blindingly obvious you didn’t even read the whole question nor did you watch the clip.
Hmmmm …
EOGHAN: Yes. Interesting point. Maybe you should write to Ang and ask him to make a movie about sheep-lurve?
Q: WHY is it always best to shag a sheep on the edge of a cliff?
A: Because it pushes back harder
Blue Christ: Any debate on LGBT issues or Gender issues is important on this forum and I know that a Christian who makes judgments about another’s lifestyle is in the wrong and it is based in ignorance, narrow mindedness and lack of education and exposure to diversity so it is interesting for me to get into how and why you think this way.
Don’t take it personally. I am the same with all homophobic fundies.
Blue Christ: I never used the word ‘hatred’ …. you did.
CAPRICORN: I don’t agree with your take on Brokeback. It’s condescending to prescribe that gay movies should end in a happy-ever-after scenario and Jack died in an accident.
The murder was in Ennis’s mind.
It demonstrates what both overt and internalised homophobia can do to a psyche when society is allowed to act on its prejudices.
BY THE WAY: WHAT did you think of the kiss? That was my question
MUTTERHALLS: I am AMAZED at your response! People like you and the men spend thousands of hours here debating and calling each other names in the name of ‘gender politics’ and you have the gall to ask me to ‘let it go’ when it comes to gender debate and LGBT issues?
Excuse me hun but I find that extremely condescending and I most certainly will NOT let it go.
lmao
… if that is the way you think then may I suggest you ‘let it go’ re all the answers you give about gender on this forum
Wow
Way to show your own hypocrisy!
BLUE CHRIST: That’s just it - you don’t discuss it. And as long as you don’t post answers here denigrating gays then I shall say nothing to you about it.
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15 Responses to “A hundred years of cinema and thousands of films have explored the theme of love and romance and relationships?”
That’s pretty passionate, I’d say (let’s not forget that for most of the earlier years of those hundred, film was pretty cheesy and contrived in its novelty). I would agree that it would be pretty difficult to find another onscreen embrace more convincing than that one.
Of course, some of its passion is owed to the unusual nature of the onscreen romance: it’s homosexual, of course, and the two men are heavily persecuted; one would expect them to be trying to be more secretive, so the fact that they need to throw regard for their personal safety and reputation out the window to even have that embrace contributes significantly.
It’s OK imo. Call me emo, but I still like the scenes from the movie Love Story. Perfect acting with Francis Lai’s famous piano/violin accompaniments is still awesome.
My favorite love story is Natural Born Killers.
Edit: Look dude, I get where you’re coming from, I wouldn’t take kindly to some one calling me or my lifestyle a perversion. But arguing with these people is not going to change their minds, in fact it will just reinforce any negative thoughts they arleady had about you. Sometimes you just have to let it go.
Edit: Honestly, I think I’ve just now officially had my fill of this sh_t.
I think that Hollywood liberals love to appear socially concerned. “Look how non-homophobic we are! Where’s my latte? Is Tibet free yet?”
Personally I’d go for the lesbian scene in Mulholland Drive, but that’s just me.
I saw the movie and have to say the romance between the two was very convincing.
Its weird that you would bring this up.
I could watch the Notebook a million times and don’t mind telling anyone I love that movie, but with Brokeback Mountain I see it more as a dirty pleasure.
It’s weird the difference. I’m all for gay rights don’t get me wrong, I don’t know what it is.
Whatever Trevor. I wash my hands of this discussion.
The thing I don’t like about Brokeback is that it wasn’t all that great, but because it had two dudes going at it (which is not an issue for me either way), the media made it a much bigger deal than it was. The acting was good and they spent a lot of money making it look good. But on the whole the final product wasn’t much.
And that ending. Can you say anti-climactic?
EDIT: The kiss was a bit rough for my taste. I don’t go in for the rough stuff that much.
When I clicked on the link to watch the clip my computer got a virus. Please don’t misinterpret this.. This is true.
the story makes no sense whatsoever, why would two nice fellas like that turn homogay when there were so many lady sheep up there on the mountain too?
Is it just me, or does it seem that most mainstream movies that (seriously) deal with homosexual relationships often end up tragedy? Where are the happy gay movies, and I’m not talking about the stereotypical gay movies either.
Even shows like ‘Will and Grace’ are guilty in some way. You either have ‘Jack’, the flamboyant gay guy with the Cher references, then you have Will, the gay guy who doesn’t get to indulge in NEARLY as many relationships as Grace. It’s almost as if they want to be open to portraying homosexuals in a positive way, but not ‘too’ gay. It’s odd.
EDIT: The kiss was very passionate and I can see why it won the ‘best scene depicting romance’. And I wasn’t implying that all movies about homosexuals should end with both characters skipping hand in hand in the sunset. I’m saying that it seems that a lot of movies depicting homosexual romance don’t seem to end well.
I wish I could be in the middle of that homo sandwich!!!
I’m afraid to say I havent seen Brokeback Mountain yet, so I cant view that scene in its full relevance.
My favourite “embrace” from a film, is the scene where Max and Lucia are re-united in the Night Porter. Im not saying it is romantic or hot, because its not, its dark and twisted and sinister, but its bloody powerful stuff.
Its a very passionate scene. You can feel the hunger. But I thought the award was for “best kiss”on some online poll. I don’t think that scene depicts “romance” particularly well. Do you have a link for the award you describe?
It was a powerful movie, but the point was woefully lost on many (see femininecorn’s answer).
I find it amazing that he and his ilk would say “just stop being homosexual…stop having gay sex and “sinning against God”). if the tables were turned, and heterosexuality was viewed by many as being “Deviant” how would he take that same advice? “Stop being sexually attracted to women. You can CHOOSE to be straight, you don’t HAVE to sin by wanting to have sex with women.” I’m sure he’d jump on the gay bandwagon right away, aren’t you?
It most certainly deserved all those awards- it’s fantastic.
I’m not sure what other opinions you want from me. But yeah.